College Ready Writing With Dr. Lee Skallerup

Just what the heck is a bad female academic?  It’s what Dr. Lee Skallerup (sometimes) calls herself.  She’s also a mother with a PhD in Comparative Literature who writes about peer driven learning, teaching composition, and other issues related to higher education.  I’d be more apt to call her “Super Woman.”  Lee also co-founded a regular Wednesday night TweetChat where writing teachers come together via the hashtag #FYCCHAT.  It’s on Wednesday nights at nine o’clock if you’d ever like to check it out.   Lee recently joined me for a podcast discussion and also took the time to answer some of my questions about her teaching and writing process.  You can also access the podcast on iTunes by searching for “digital book club.”  My questions for Lee are given in italics and her answers follow.

Can you take me through the highlights of the writing of your
“Peer Driven Learning: Success!” post?  To what degree did you take
notes throughout the semester?  What’s different about writing a
reflection as opposed to the other sorts of posts you write?

I knew that as soon I started blogging about my peer-driven learning
experience (see an archive of the posts here:
http://collegereadywriting.blogspot.com/p/peer-driven-learning.html)
that I would have to/want to write a post that looked back on the
entire process at the end of the semester. One of the things about
keeping a running blog/commentary during the semester, it showed me how
much the term ebbed and flowed and how things changed and evolved as
we worked through the uncertain process. I hoped that the title of the
post would be “Success!” but there were points in the semester where I
wasn’t sure. I don’t take written notes during the semester, instead
relying on mental notes and distinct memories both good and bad. I
have to say that the class did leave some pretty distinct impressions
on me, so it was easy to call on those impressions while writing.
Reflections, for me, are much easier to write (in fact, one could
argue that almost all my posts are reflections) because I’m free to
record my thoughts and impressions as they come to me, rather than
have a thesis, evidence, etc, etc, etc. I think that blogging lends
itself quite well to reflection-type writing.

What’s the usual way that an idea comes to you for a post and
are there any that you can remember that came about in a way that
stands out to you as different?

Sometimes I have my posts planned out in advance, sometimes I have an
incomplete idea that I write down and I think about it until the idea
comes together for a post. Other times, I’ll read something or
something will happen that makes me want to write about it
immediately. But possibly the biggest exception to that was my series
of Bad Female Academic posts
(http://collegereadywriting.blogspot.com/p/bad-female-academic.html)
that I wrote over the summer. I had been reading and thinking about
the intersection of class, gender, and professional expectations from
higher education and I suddenly got this idea of exploring all the
ways I (and, from the reaction I got from the posts, many, many
others) don’t seem to fit into the higher education mold. I try not
to write out of a place of anger (but I will write from a place of
frustration) and these posts were my way of working through that
anger, that feeling of not fitting in. They were the most fun,
frustrating, liberating, and ultimately rewarding posts that I wrote
and they really helped me to try new things and write about tough
issues on my blog. It also really solidified a virtual community for
me. I’m still getting emails from academics and PhDs for whom the
posts resonate. It’s really been a great thing and I’m glad that I took
the chance to write them,

What sort of things might you say to a blogger
about writing?  The same stuff as you’d say to a writing student about
an essay?

How I write is a little odd. It’s left over from the bad, bad habits I
had a student, which was to write everything at the last minute, which
means I’m really good at “word vomit,” I write fast and I write a lot.
But, I do spend an awful lot of time preparing to write and thinking
about what I am going to write. I read, a lot. This is so important
for students to remember; often they have trouble writing because they
have nothing to say. Reading a lot helps with that. Then, I think. I
tweet out ideas, see what the response is. When I was an undergrad and
a graduate student, I was a terrible insomniac, so I would lie awake
at night basically writing my essays. Now, I start to write once I
have an idea of where I want to go in the post and I just let the
writing take me where it wants to go. More often than not, I have an
epiphany part-way through the post and it’s a fantastic revelation
(for me, in any case). This will often happen when I’m writing papers
now, too. I am, however, absolutely horrible at proofreading my own
work. It’s one skill that I try really hard to teach my students
because it’s so valuable and it’s also really difficult.

Do you think of yourself as a writer?   To any degree you are writing well, how would you say you learned to do it?

I think of myself as an efficient writer; I write fast and I write
well enough. If you need something quickly, I’m perfect. My writing
has gotten better, especially in terms of me being able to find (or,
perhaps more accurately, rediscover) my own voice, and that just came
through practice. I love writing and I’ve always written, from the
moment I knew how. I was very stubborn and very attached to my writing
and that’s something that I’ve slowly improved on. I’ve also gotten a
lot better at adapting my writing to different audiences and purposes,
and this is another lesson I try to get my students to understand.
But, it just comes with a lot of practice and some good feedback from
people. But also developing a critical eye. It’s something I’m still
working on. I let/force my husband to read my work and give me some
good feedback.

Fond or dreadful memories of writing in school?  What else do you write besides blog posts?

English, at least in high school, was my worst subject. But I wrote
and read all the time. I read just about anything I could get my hands
on and I wrote stories, poems, essays, and kept a journal (not to
mention pages and pages of notes to my group of best friends, as this
was pre-texting). I also wrote for the school newspaper and wrote
press releases for my swim team for the local papers. I initially
wanted to be a journalist, but I can still clearly remember in a
literature class where the light finally went on that maybe I could
do/write about literature. I compared “The Rhyme of the Ancient
Mariner” and “Frankenstein.” Something clicked, and at that moment, I
knew that when I wrote essays, I had to include some sort of “new”
insight that I had come up with, and that I could, in fact, do that. I
trained as a technical writer and journalist, which made me learn how
to be brief and concise. Then, I went into grad school, which taught
me how not to be. I’ve always struggled with the “academic” voice.
When I started blogging about higher education, it was like a perfect
merging of all of my training as a writer. I’ll admit here that I also
still try my hand at writing fiction, but it isn’t very good.

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Lee Writes at Inside Higher Ed

Tell me about the audience for your blog.  What effect do you think it’s had on your writing?  Do you see your writing as having evolved since the first posts?

It’s really funny that you ask that. I was reading a blog a while back
(http://www.selloutyoursoul.com/2011/10/28/how-to-create-a-blog-that-people-actually-read/)
and point number 7 was “To be the voice of a group” and the author
pointed to my blog as an excellent example of that particular piece of
advice. I think I speak for those of us who are off the tenure-track,
trying to navigate our way in (and out) of higher education despite
our tenuous positions. The audience tends to be other people in higher
education, although (at least at my old blog) I had some posts that
helped students in their writing. I also write for other people who
are trying to teach writing. My writing has definitely evolved as I am
less afraid of what topics to write about, as well as gaining
confidence in my voice. I’ve been working on that as my blog moved to
Inside Higher Ed, meaning that my audience was, in theory, much larger
than it was before at my old blog. But, I’ve figured out that I’m just
better off being myself, although I’ve also decided that I am going to
use the bigger platform to promote people, causes, and issues that I
think are important.

What nuts and bolts advice might you offer to a blogger?  And I
mean from getting ideas, to thinking in terms of a theme or subject
for the blog, or keeping track of the posts to come?  Is there a dry
erase board or plans on a computer or phone?

Just keep at it. It might take a while to find your voice, and it
certainly takes a while to find an audience, but it’s worth the
trouble. But I would tell bloggers to write about what you are
passionate about and what you either already know or are really,
really passionate about learning more about. I tried blogging about
kids’ TV shows and about swimming, but both of them faded away, as I
wasn’t completely interested in the topics (I thought they’d be catchy
and have a niche audience). It was only until I started to write about
higher education that blogging made sense for me and got “easy.” I
used to keep track of ideas for my blogs as drafts to be written
later. I also just use good, old-fashioned pen and paper beside my
computer.

What do you read?  I mean blogs or otherwise.

What don’t I read? I read newspapers (online), local news, blogs on
higher education, on teaching, on writing, on politics, on
entertainment, on pop culture, on just about anything. I also ready
novels (or, I try to read novels) in both French and English,
particularly science fiction and speculative fiction. I love
dystopias.

When and under what conditions do the posts get written?  Email
open?  Checking phone?  Need quiet or doesn’t matter?

At night, after the kids go to bed, on my laptop, with the TV on.
Sometimes, I’ll write them in the afternoon but mostly I use that
quiet time to write and grade for my “day job.” My email is open, my
phone is on, and so is the TV. But once I get into writing a post,
none of that matters. I’m in the moment, writing.

College Writers on the Craft of Writing (podcast link at bottom)

Each semester the past couple of years the First Year Writing Program at St. John’s University holds a conference called “Coming to Writing.”  My colleague Tara Roeder was one of the faculty members who came up with the name and it comes from Hélène Cixous, a writer Tara describes as her favorite, fabulous, French feminist.  Here’s a quote that has previously been used on the conference program.

“I sensed that there was a beyond, to which I did not have access, an unlimited place […] A desire was seeking its home. I was that desire. I was the question. The question with this strange destiny: to seek, to pursue the answers that will appease it…
—Hélène Cixous in “Coming to Writing”

I moderated a panel discussion of students I worked with during the semester, recorded the session, and published the session as a podcast with their permission.  I can certainly spot ways in which many of them were, as Cixous describes, in pursuit of answers.  What follows here is the title of our panel and a description of the work the students discussed.

Writers on the Craft of Writing

Like it or not, these students had to be writers this semester.  They wrote two blog posts a week and created a documentary film as a culminating writing project.  Here’s a list of the students who presented and what it was that most struck me about their work:

  • Brianne revolutionized the way many of us thought about how a dean might work with students in his or her respective college.  She talked with deans from many of our colleges at St. John’s and then surprised most of us when her exhaustive interviews of students revealed that many students communicate with their deans regularly.
  • Tahyanna is a funny and smart writer who I think ought to write a memoir something along the lines of Confessions of a Germaphobe.  (I don’t think she’s going to do it)  During the “Coming to Writing Conference,” Tahyanna talked about her writing process for the final paper, an assignment I call “A Writer on Writing.”  I make my students (no sense in saying I ask them to do it)  something we call an “annotation.”  For annotations, students  print out articles and take notes on them.  Tahynna explained how she put all her annotations out in front of her and looked at her written comments on the articles as a way of organizing how she was going to write the paper.
  • Miriam was the only student I had who referenced the only poem we looked at all semester as a way of thinking about images.  Although Miriam wrote about several topics, I remember her for writing about the environment.  In one of her pieces she wrote about a sort of paradoxical beauty, that oil in a puddle of water can be beautiful:  “Some puddles are murky, quiet as to how deep they really are.  Others are crystal clear, reflecting the fiery fall foliage.  Others seem to have life.  An intermingling of swirling colors…these puddles have harnessed their own rainbows.”
  • Michael came up with a theme for his blog:  conflict.  What impressed me most about his work (aside from his sometimes encyclopedic knowledge of the Middle East) was the savvy and empathy he showed entering into controversial topics.  Rather than lighting up our classroom with angry argument, Michael fostered ideas of tolerance and conversation meant to help us all understand many points of view.
  • Diana says she comes from family that immigrated from the Soviet Union to Israel where she was born, and that she considers herself an American.  These identities informed her writing in which she used the various generations of her family to underpin the structure of her final portfolio.  She also alludes to a terrible nickname given to her by a former teacher:  ESL, she was called, because her teacher felt she spoke using poor grammar.  Way to go dude.
  • Kevin started off not sure if he wanted to write about working on cars or the fact that he switched his concentration of study to nursing.  He took a practical approach to the work of the class and interviewed coworkers at the hospital, gathered information about graduate schools in nursing, and read numerous scholarly articles in his field.  If I was ever in need of someone to look after my health, I’d trust Kevin completely.
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Tahyna and Miriam Intellectually Browse in the Library

Thanks to my colleague April Julier for organizing this semester’s conference.  The audio podcast of our panel discussion is available below.  If you take the time to listen, I wonder how you envision the college composition course?  Perhaps you are someone who says you are getting students ready to take it?  Maybe you’re headed for school yourself or had a very different experience when you were a student?  And of course there are other teachers of writing who have very different takes on what this class can be.  Love to hear from you regarding your thoughts on the sort of writing you’ve experienced connected to the first year writing course.

You can connect to the podcast here or search for “digital book club” on iTunes.  Thanks for checking this out.

Write With Me Wednesdays: The Proposal

Here’s the plan:  for an undetermined stretch of Wednesdays (how long can I keep it going and do any of you care?) I’m going to try and share some element of my teaching that invites some writing on your part.  I’m going to start with a listing activity I call writing territories.  From those territories you’ll tell me ABOUT one of the words or phrases you’ve listed, or you’ll tell a STORY that comes from the territories.  From there we’ll work into some experiments trying all sorts of strategies for writing first sentences.  It’s an activity connected to the idea that some of our best teachers can be the texts that surround us.  I call these mentor texts.

William Torgerson Love on the Big Screen Torg Write With Me Wednesdays

Below you’ll find the video version of this blog post, and once I get to a spot where it makes sense to post a handout (perhaps to be used by a teacher in a classroom) I’ll make that available to you on my website at TheTorg.Com.

Next Wednesday Nov. 16th,  I’ll post the writing territories and invite you to post your responses to the prompts on your own blog.  Once you have that up, you can leave a comment to my blog post and link us up to your answers, perhaps with a brief summary or reflection of how the activity worked.  If don’t have a blog and want to set one up, I have a tutorial video here.  Of course all you have to do is ask Google, “How do I set up a WordPress blog?” and you’ll have more help than you know what to do with.

These Write With Me Wednesdays won’t be just me telling you how I teach.  I hope you’ll critique or otherwise add to how these activities might work for a variety of purposes.  I suspect those who might be willing to give this a try will be those who want to write, perhaps some bloggers I’ve met in the past year attending two Blogworld New Media Expo Conferences, and also teachers who teach writing and those who are looking to collaborate with other writers and teachers on the craft of their work.

What do you think?  Are you up for this?  Suggestions for my plan?

Golden Lines From My Students’ Work

Last week when I was reading student blogs, I started collecting lines that jumped out at me so that I could share them with you.  With permission, here are a few bits of the great stuff I get to read:

The subway poles are a germaphobe’s worst nightmare. Sometimes I think that I would rather fall on my behind than grab on to those filthy things. One time, I saw a man take his hand off the pole, sneeze into it and then resume holding the pole. When I saw that, I felt my stomach drop. He probably wasn’t the first person to do this.

-by Tahyna Hernandez

Is there a child today in any part of the world who has not learned of or heard of the gas chambers in Auschwitz or read the diary of Anne Frank? Indeed. But ask any child in American modern society about what the rape of Nanking was and you will find that 99% of the population would be ignorant of such crimes. 

-by Ada Lee

 

My parents blamed the black people in my community for the violence and M——‘s parents blamed the Latinos.

by B.A. writing about strain in a cross cultural friendship

As the documentary went on, I was shocked to see that there was discrimination and segregation between black and white deaf people also. I thought to myself, if deaf people were already discriminated against, why would they further the discrimination, especially when both races shared the deaf commonality? 

by Jenyca St. Surin

Titles are like a person’s physical appearance in that they might not reflect how the person really is but they have the power to draw you in.

-also by Tahyna Hernandez

I’ve resisted offering more context at the moment.  If there are comments, I might say a little more about the sorts of texts these lines come from.

Library Book Browsing Activity

Find the Book You Were Looking For

(or the one you didn’t know you were looking for)

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Yep, Young People Still Look at Books

The Activity:  (take notes in your daybook)

  1. Walk over to the library with someone you don’t know very well, and chat with them about their intellectual interests.  What did they find during the last library trip?  What do they think they might read and write about this semester?  Note your partner’s name and write down some of what they say to you.
  2. As we get in the hallways of the library, check out the signs on the wall that inform you what numbers (PN 1345  etc) are on what floor.  You can also check with me, or the staff of the library for help.
  3. You were to come to class with three call numbers for books in the Queens library that might interest you.  Try to find these books.
  4. As you find a book, be sure to check around the same shelf and the shelves close to your book to see if there is anything there that interests you.  This could be a section of the library that you return to again and again.  Write down the author and title of a book that is close to the book that you meant to find.  You’re going to spend the class reading and you’ll check out a book or two at the end of our time.  Be thinking about what books you might want to take with you.

Take Notes in Your Daybook that look something like this:

Book 1 Title and Author:__________________________________________________________________________

Book Close to Book 1 Title and Author:____________________________________________________________

  1. When you’re done, you should have written down the names of at least six books: the three books you were looking for and the book that looked interesting that was near the book you were looking for.
  2. Take books with you that you might want to read around in.  You don’t need to re-shelve these.  From what I understand, the library wants to get a sense of what books you are looking at.  There are carts placed around the library where you put the books when you are done looking at them.
  3. Sit down somewhere in the library and read around in the books and see what you find interesting.
What Floor Are the Writing Books On?

Homework

  1. For this week or next week, do a Reading For Writing (RFW) entry on a book that you check out from the library.  See the syllabus for a full description, but this means you’ll choose golden lines from the article.  Type up those lines in bold, and then free write after the quote sharing whatever the writing gets you thinking about.
  2. Somewhere in the piece, tell us about whom you visited with.
  3. Be sure to use the “son of citation” website (or something like it) to give the full MLA works cited entry at the bottom of your post.
  4. Copy and paste that works cited entry into your “Reading Bibliography” tab on your blog.
  5. Print out a copy of the entry for reading groups next Wednesday and bring your book or books to class next time.

Want the handout?  See the handout tab at TheTorg.Com